KWT Exclusive: KWT x GhostWridah (Interview)

We're back with another exclusive interview! This time it's with GhostWridah, who is definitely a favorite around KWT. In short, Ghost has had a crazy year. He dropped both My Beautiful Dark Twisted Jack Move and American Alien, as well as a slew of visuals, and freestyles. To top if off, rumors have been swirling about him signing with Roc Nation (which you can read about here).

Ghost got on the horn with me to discuss opening for J. Cole, his latest LP American Alien, his upcoming  album No Apologies (slated for a 2012 release), kush for breakfast, LeBron James, Watch The Throne, Take Care, all the subliminals flying around lately (which KWT has been covering here, here, and here), his love for KWT and more!


TS: When you opened up for J. Cole a couple of weeks ago, what was that like?

Ghost: Um, it was a great experience man. I think Cole is an incredible artist. And to be able to perform for his fans, which y'know, some of them are my fans, as well, I had a few GhostWridah fans in the building, but I think Cole has an incredible fan base. He put in a lot of work over the past year or so, so to be able to open for an artist that I respect is a blessing. I think I had a lot of fun doing it, I think I won over some of his fans as well and I wouldn't mind doing it again.

TS: That's sick, yeah. So American Alien has been out for a bit now, and when it came out it was trending [on Twitter] and everything. A few months later, what's the reaction been like overall?

Ghost: It's been incredible man. Like, the people have been really receptive to my music. I've been fortunate, in that regard. I haven't really had, for lack of a better word, I haven't really had a lot of haters. It's been a really great ride up until this point. I'm just really blessed, man, to be able to put out music and for people to receive it the way they do. Like American Alien, it was received wider than I expected it to be received. Like it trended in Miami, and Atlanta, and Vegas the day of its release. And the next day it trended in Miami again. So, I mean, to have that many people talking about your project at one time, to become a trending topic, is pretty hard on Twitter. Like you have to have a couple hundred thousand people talking about you at one time. So, I think for it to blow over the way it did man, that's a complete blessing. I just pray that all of my projects are received with open arms, the way that one was. And I was excited man, it actually pushed me to want to put something else out before the New Year, which would make it my third project to put out in one year. I'm just really grateful, y'know.

TS: Yeah, yeah. "Westside Love Affair", that's one of my favorite tracks man off American Alien. I love the writing on that. What inspired that?

Ghost: "Westside Love Affair", which is produced by my producer Lowkey by the way, "Westside Love Affair" was inspired by a story that I wanted to tell. I wanted to tell this story forever. I wanted to hold it for my actual album, but I just wanted to get it out so bad. I just couldn't hold onto the record, you know what I'm saying? I really wanted to hold onto it, but it's inspired by a true story. When I was growing up, the first hip-hop that I encountered was West Coast hip-hop. NWA and MC Ren. The Ice Cubes, the Dr. Dres, the Ice-Ts. Like this is what I grew up on, so when I first encountered hip-hop I thought hip hop was born in the West. I thought it was West Coast. I thought that's where it started because that's all I heard at the time I was starting.

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TS: Sorry, I was asking about the line "hip hop's like a room full of dykes, everybody wanna eat, but nobody got no balls". What's the official GhostWridah decision? Is that the dopest line on American Alien?

Ghost: What did you say? Are you asking is it that the dopest line?

TS: Yeah, is that the dopest line? We need the official decision.

Ghost: Um, I dunno. It's high up there. It's definitely one of the dopest lines on there. It just might be.

TS: The fans love that one.

Ghost: Yeah, yeah, they love that line. I think that sums up a lot in music, so I think that's definitely one of the top 5 lines on there, if I have to pick from some of the lines. I mean, I'm definitely a favorite of that line. Like some of that stuff I wanted to save for my album man, but I just didn't want to cheat my fans. I wanted to give them my best, you know what I'm saying?

TS: For sure, yeah. The verse with Freeway, from "Window Cracked" how did that come about?

Ghost: I was actually in Miami, my hometown, at the time, and Free was in Miami at the same time. And he had heard of me through mutual relationships. And I got in the studio and he was like "yo let's get it in, let's get some work done". Free's a really humble dude, you know what I'm saying, he respected my music. I sent him my verse on "Window Cracked", he called me back immediately and told me how crazy he thought it was. He quoted a few lines from it and he was super inspired to work on it from that point. He went back to Philly, did his verse within 24 hours, and sent it right back. He was just excited to be on the record, cuz I went in on the record. He was excited about my buzz and things that were going on and I'm still excited about Freeway to this day. I think he has a lot more growing to do, I think he has a lot more opportunities in hip-hop than people credit him for, or that they think that he has. Just having him on the project was a blessing but just right place, right time man. He heard the music, he liked it, and I've always been a fan of his, and it happened, you know.

TS: 305's and Heartbreaks, that was like the first time I heard you, the first time I was like "I gotta keep checking for this guy". And then you did My Beautiful Dark Twisted Jack Move. What's it about Kanye's production, is that a connection that's deeper for you than just the beat?

Ghost: I think I just did those two projects coincidentally. Like it's not like I did it because I'm such a huge Kanye fan, because like I am, I'm absolutely a huge Kanye fan, but that's not the reason I did it. It was just a coincidence. Like at the time, people wanted to hear me on certain types of records and I love rapping over Kanye's production, don't get me wrong, in the future he's definitely somebody I'd like to work with but it just happened by fate, by chance. Like I did a few freestyles from the Dark Twisted Fantasy album, and the people wanted to hear more. I just went and, by request did a few records and before you know it, I had a project. I had enough records that I had rapped on that I was like, you know what, let me just put it out together collectively and make a project out of it. It's not like I planned it, it just kinda happened. That's the last of the Kanye beats I'm going to do for awhile, not necessarily the freestyles, but just the entire projects, because I don't want it to start spawning into like a big Kanye comparison, you know what I'm saying?

TS: Yeah, like a gimmick.

Ghost: Yeah, like that's what started to happen. People started to feel like oh, Ghostwridah's starting to sound like Kanye because I'm wrapping over his records. Not to say that's a bad comparison, it's actually a great comparison, but I just don't like comparisons. I want to be my own artist.

TS: You were posting about "12.23.11" yesterday, and we know No Apologies, is on its way, can we get any details on the project?

Ghost: Yeah, the biggest detail is that what's coming out on the 23rd is not No Apologies, but something is definitely coming out on the 23rd.

TS: Wow. Oh, okay.

Ghost: [laughs] Yeah, I can't really speak on it but it's like, No Apologies is not coming out until like the New Year, but I'm definitely dropping a project that Kids Wasting Time, and a lot of the other blogs, and a lot of the other GhostWridah fans are really gonna appreciate. I'm doing it strictly for them, you know what I'm saying? So it's gonna be crazy, like you're gonna be really surprised. It's the first project of its kind, like there haven't really been any projects done the way I just did this new one. You just gotta pay attention to detail, pay attention to numbers and what I'm doing. If you're smart enough, and I know that you guys are, you'll put it together but for the most part, it's gonna be a really beautiful project man. So No Apologies is about 40-60% complete.

TS: Shit!

Ghost: Yeah, it's pretty much done, I'm just getting the Lowkey records in now, but it's pretty much a wrap.  I got like 60% more of the work to do, but once that's done and complete, then I'll start talking about some dates, but I have no dates. I just know it's coming out after the New Year, so you could look for that maybe January, February, late February, but uh, the 23rd man. The 23rd, mark it on your calendar man, it's gonna be a great day. Really early Christmas present.

TS: So you know we were covering the Roc Nation rumors a lot, you were checking all that stuff out, can we get any insight into the New York trip? I know you can't tell us much, but is there anything we can get?

Ghost: Well you know what, that (some loud ass rumbling in the background) yo I know this is like a lot of noise around me, I'm like outside doing the interview on Biscayne, so you know you gotta pardon the noise from me but uh - I mean as far as the insight goes I think when I took that trip it was very needed. I met with a few record labels, of course Roc Nation being one of them, and all I can say man is, you know in the New Year there's gonna be some changes. There's gonna be some great situations, I can't really speak on it, I can't really say whether a Roc Nation deal is done or whether it's not or whether we're still gonna do it or whether we're not. I'm just like that whole situation I can't even speak on. But I'll just say that the trip was very productive, that it opened my eyes to a lot of things, that I learned a lot just from that quick trip about myself as an artist, about what record labels look for, about record deals, you know what I'm saying? And the way the whole thing works. It was a great trip man. Like I said I can't really speak much on it but I'll just say that in the New Year there's gonna be some great things to come, you know? You can expect a really big surprise from GhostWridah, whether it be Roc Nation, whether it be Interscope, whether it be Sony, you don't know where it's gonna come from but it's gonna come from somewhere. And I'll make that announcement when it's time, when everything is done. New Year, new checks, new money, I'll definitely talk about that, you know what I mean?

TS: Yeah, for sure. Alright, big year for hip-hop, Watch the Throne, Carter IV, all that. What's your favorite track off Watch the Throne?

Ghost: Umm, my favorite track off Watch the Throne... "No Church in the Wild".

TS: "No Church in the Wild" yeah, yeah, that's a good one. You went in on that, you went in.

Ghost: Yeah, I mean, cause I liked it so much, and that's what usually happens, it's not like, it's never a coincidence. Like it's another record on a Kanye project, but it was a coincidence. I just love the music they choose and when I'm inspired by it sometimes I'm so inspired that I can't help myself when it comes down to just letting the record be theirs, like I feel like I need to put my two cents in, you know what I saying?

TS: For sure.

Ghost: Kinda proves that I coulda been on that record if I had the opportunity. But yeah "No Church in the Wild", I love that, I love "Lift Off". Uhh, what else, what else? "Murder to Excellence", I love the concept to it, and "New Day". Those are my top records on the project.

TS: Yeah "New Day" is sick.

Ghost: Yeah "New Day" is a beautiful record just because the concept of talking to your child that's not even born yet. I think it's so crazy. I mean Tupac did that back in the day, but the spin that Jay-Z and Kanye put on it about the negatives they went through trying to make it positive for their children, to be able to live and not do the same thing that they did. I thought it was a brilliant concept, so that's one of my favorite records, as well.

TS: You got a favorite off Take Care?

Ghost: Umm, Take Care, yeah Drake did an excellent job on Take Care by the way. I was really proud of the effort that he put forth. But if I had a favorite, if I had to pick one, I'd say "Lord Knows".

TS: Oh yeah, that's tough, yeah.

Ghost: Just because "Just Blaze" did such a phenomenal job on that beat. Like, he outdid himself on that track. Me and Lowkey had a conversation about that, I really feel like that should have been Jay-Z and Jay Electronica's record. That would have been like the most incredible record ever. But I think Ross, of course, being from the city, all salutes to the homie Ross, Maybach Music. He did his thing. He did it justice. And Drake snapped on it. But outside of that, I definitely liked "Over My Dead Body", for its honesty. I like "The Ride" as well, one of the last tracks, which kinda describes his struggles from the bottom to where he is right now. Overall I liked the project man. He kinda really let you know the state that he's in right now, as opposed to when he did Thank Me Later, about trying to make it. He's already made it. He's already established himself as an established artist.

TS: Yeah, you were talking about Lowkey and everything, you guys have a very distinct sound, like it's different from what you hear coming out of Miami, and everywhere. Can you speak on that?

Ghost: Yeah, like now there's a lot of people, a lot of rappers in this city that are coming up under me, they all want that sound that Lowkey and I have provided for the city. Like a lot of producers come to Lowkey and they all want instructions, either the beats, or something, because the sound that we provided for this city is so distinct and unique that everybody gravitated to it. Everybody wants it now. The reason it sounds the way it does is because we're constantly trying to stray away from doing the same thing we did on the previous project, because everybody wants it, everybody tries to recreate it. And it becomes an over-saturation almost, instead of something that's just solely for us. And that happened. Do something popular and the world's going to follow. It happens, so I just try to stray away from it. Our sound just keeps evolving because we're just trying to stay away from sounding like everything else that's out. I think Lowkey and I as a team, we strive to be outside of the box. We strive to be outside of the norm, so that we can stand out in the city. Before any rappers were getting posted on any blogs, it was just me and him, you know what I'm saying? We were the first New Miami artists to get posted on any websites, before any of these guys, because we set aside a certain sound. It's kinda like being on a desert island, if I could give you an analogy. And you're extremely thirsty. All there is to drink is cactus water, and you gotta damn near prick yourself to death to get it, and all of sudden you see a vending machine. You know what I'm saying? It's such a refreshing sound. It's so refreshing what we did for the city of Miami that it just stood out. So the sound that we built is just based off of us striving to be as different as possible. Different doesn't always mean better, but we just don't want to be the same. We don't want to be known for what Miami's known for. I love Miami for what it is and what it's become, but at the end of the day I want to be known for something that I did alone, and not a trend that I followed.

TS: So it's been a big year for hip-hop, and I'm sure next year it's gonna keep going, where do you think No Apologies fits in there? Where do you see it going with your career?

Ghost: Just a step forward, man. I look at it as a ladder. There's a ladder, and there are no steps. And every project is me building a different step to the top. It's just an empty ladder, with no steps, and me trying to climb to the top. So No Apologies, as well as this project I'm dropping on the 23rd, is just me trying to become the great artist that I know I can be. It's all practice for me, man. I felt like if I would have dropped American Alien or In Love With My Future as my first album, with a few singles on it, that those could have been exceptional first albums. But they're LPs that I'm putting out for my fans, just to continue to build on that ladder, and continue climbing to the top. So I think it's just another step towards me trying to become the great artist that I know in the future I'm gonna be. I would in no way shape or form say that I'm a great artist yet. I think that I'm a growing artist. I think I'm really good at what I do. But I'm trying to reach greatness, I'm trying to reach genius. And that's not an easy level to reach, so I have a lot of ladders left to climb. I have a lot of steps to continue to build. But I think No Apologies is going to take me a step closer to greatness. And that's what I set out to do with every project. I put my all into it, as if it were my last album. That's what I'm doing with this. Same thing. I think you're gonna hear a lot of different flows from me on No Apologies, as well you're gonna hear a lot more story-telling, which I haven't done as much in the previous projects. It's gonna be a lot more story-telling. With these records I'm just trying to reach new heights, and new avenues that I haven't really touched on. It's gonna be a beautiful project man. I pretty much got a hold on where I'm trying to go with it. Some of the things might be offensive to some rappers, offensive to some people, because that's what it is, it's No Apologies, it's like no holds barred. I'm not holding anything back on this one, I'm taking direct shots at what I don't like, you know what I mean? About my community, about myself, about the rap game. I'm just taking direct shots at the things that I feel like could be better, that I don't like. Even with myself, I'm taking shots at myself. To step my game up. That's what it's about man. Progression.

TS: Yeah, in terms of progression, you went the Bandcamp route [for American Alien] was that the right route for you, do you think?

Ghost: It was kinda a test for me. It wasn't moreso about the financial gain from it because all the money that we made, the proceeds go right back into the projects, you know what I'm saying. So as far as Bandcamp, I just wanted to test it out. To see how loyal my fans were and how much these guys would pay for a GhostWridah song. How loyal are you? How much do you appreciate all the other free projects that I've put out, that you would actually go spend, you know, $3.99 or $5.99. Some people payed $20 for that, because I let you name your price.

TS: Yeah, yeah, I paid that money. [laughs]

Ghost: Yeah, that's what I mean, exactly. It's people like yourself that are really serious GhostWridah fans, that really appreciate my project, that I put that out to see how much they really do care because I made it available for download for free, or you could pay for it. I gave you an option. And a bunch of people paid man. They just wanted to support. I've given away so much free music over the last couple years, that I felt like, let me put this project out on Bandcamp and see what it does. And it actually did exceptionally well. It was a great experience. I got a chance to see how many people really wanted to show love for GhostWridah. How many real GhostWridah fans I had. And it was a blessing man, it was cool. So I think I'll definintely take that route again, and it'll just continue to pay for the other projects that we're working on and what-not. I mean, it worked out.

TS: That's sick. It's cool. Like, Mac Miller debuting at number one and J. Cole sold 200 000, I think fans are starting to realize that the only way they can be heard is through their money. That's how fans can affect hip-hop, right?

Ghost: Yeah I mean, at this point in time, hip-hop is free man. Like fans didn't have to buy Drake's album. Because it leaked. But, at the end of the day, that's what a real fan does. A real fan is kinda like family in a sense. It's extended family. These people tattoo your rap names on their bodies like they really love you. As if they've known you their entire lives and because they've gotten an opportunity to know you as an artist. And get to know you as a human being as well, if you're honest with them. I feel like the more honest you be, the more loyal your fans will be to you, because they will already feel like they're a part of your life, a part of your career. Like they know you. And then whatever you drop they'll run and support it whether it leaks or not. They want you to know that they went and contributed to something that they love which is a great product, great music and an individual they got a chance to know, you know what I'm saying? At this point, music is free. Nobody has to go out and buy an album, but they do it because they're loyal, because they want to show that, you know what, I support GhostWridah. I really want to see him win. I love what he does for me when I wake up in the morning and I press play. And when I work out to his music. Or when I'm going through something with my family and I press play and I listen to "Bright Lights", it uplifts me. Like people, they appreciate that. And if the way they can show their appreciation is by spending $13.99, they'll do it. $13 out of a $300 paycheck from you working at Target doesn't hurt you.

TS: Yeah, you talked about working out, I gotta ask about "Gettin' High" [off American Alien], man. That's a song to smoke to. Were you guys burning up a lot in those sessions?

Ghost: When we did "Gettin' High" I think we smoked every morning after the session was done.

TS: [laughs]

Ghost: Like every morning. Not just when we were recording "Gettin' High" but we'd work on the project, and that would be our breakfast man. Kush. Wake up, burn one. Record to 6 AM, burn one. Go home, go to sleep, wake up and do it all over again. That's what kinda inspired "Gettin' High" man. It was a vibe record. I just wanted people who did smoke, to have something they could ride out to, vibe out to, roll up to. And that's what it is. People actually enjoyed that record. I think I've contributed to a lot of high motherfuckers from the release up until this point. [laughs]

TS: I know you're a big Miami Heat fan, and the lockout's over.

Ghost: Of course.

TS: Do they got it this year? What do you think?

Ghost: Yeah man, Michael Jordan said it best. The man himself, the greatest athlete of our time said it best, if you're gonna beat the Miami Heat, you better beat them in their first season, cuz they're only gonna get better, they're only gonna get stronger, they're only gonna get faster. I watched LeBron work out through the clips that were released.

TS: Oh yeah, he's putting in work.

Ghost: Yeah, you know what I'm saying? He's putting in work. You can't even see Dwyane Wade work cuz he doesn't film his workouts. I mean, we took it all the way last year. We beat everybody that they said we couldn't, so I think doing it again this year, taking it to the top, is very very possible. The probability is really high.

TS: Alright, I only got a couple more questions. Do you have specific inspirations, like you said beats make you wanna go in and stuff, are there other artists or other types of music that make you wanna work on your stuff?

Ghost: I'm inspired a lot by artists that have something to say. That's why coming out of Miami, I've grown to be such a lyrical artist. Because I'm inspired by words that make sense. If you get what I'm saying.

TS: Yeah, you can't just talk shit, you've gotta be honest.

Ghost: Yeah, it's gotta be something that makes sense. Like if I have a conversation with you right now and we're talking about life, and I just bust out and start talking to you about champagne, women, ass and tits, yeah it'll get your attention for a second, but there's no substance to it. You can see pussy any day. You can drink champagne any time, but drinking champagne and seeing pussy is not gonna pay your rent, you know what I'm saying?

TS: Yeah, yeah.

Ghost: Yeah, like you know what I'm saying? Unless you pimping, or selling booze under the table or some shit [laughs]. Like other than that, I have to hear something that moves me. That I feel it in my heart. When I hear Andre 3000, you know what I'm saying? When I hear Outkast, when I hear Goodie Mob. You know, when I hear Hov. When I hear things that I feel I'm competing against. Because I'm a competitor. As much as an inspiration as Jay is, I wanna feel like I can compete against him. So that's why I rapped on "No Church in the Wild" and I give it my all. That's why I rapped on "So Appalled". I rap on records that I feel like, you know what, I wanna show people that I can compete. Competition inspires me. When I listen to J. Cole, and see how great he did on his album, when I listen to Drake's album, see how great he did on his album, I feel the pressure. I feel like I need to be competitive. I feel like I need to compete with that. It's more like a Michael Jordan theory. I'm really inspired by my competitors.And that's what inspires me now today, more than anything. It used to be, just hearing Jay and knowing his story and where he came from, and that he got turned down by 9 labels before he got signed. That story used to inspire me. But now, as I've gotten older, it's changed. Now I'm inspired by my competitors. I'm inspired by the people who've succeeded. Because I want to battle in a sense, not so much battle with as a diss record, but I want to be able to say that I can compete on this same exact level, just as good or even better, and I can prove that. So that's what my inspiration for my projects are, you know what I'm saying?

TS: I wanted to ask about the back story, like we know you used to ghost write and everything, but was there like a certain incident, or something where it was just like, fuck this, I'm gonna rap now? Or was it like you were doing it the whole time, or what was it like?

Ghost: Nah, it was actually both, man. When I was in high school a lot of the guys I would rap with, they didn't really know how to write. And I didn't know how to write as well either, but I did much better than they did. I didn't know how bars went exactly, but I knew what felt right. That was more than I could say for the guys that I would rap with. I would just write things down and be like yo, you guys rap this. You guys recite this, I'll do this. I'll write every body's verses, and just hand them to them.

TS: That's that Ice Cube shit.

Ghost: Yeah, like it kinda started from there. I would kinda like, fit the verses to each person's personality. Like if I had a guy who rapped with us, and he was more aggressive than the rest of the group, I would give him the more street, hard-core rap. And I had a guy in the group who was more like a pretty boy, he loved to talk to the women, and I would give him the more female based record, that would talk more to the ladies. When I did that, that's kinda where it started. And it was kinda parallel. I would always rap and I always wrote as well, and I had the opportunities to do it, with certain artists in this city, with certain artists in Cali, artists in Houston, and it kinda stuck with me. The name kinda stuck with me, my name changed to GhostWridah, I just flipped the spelling up. And I was kinda known for doing both. If somebody needed a verse, to this day, up until this point, somebody needed a verse, somebody needed bars or something I was always to the rescue type shit. Like I'll put that cape on, from day one.

TS: I wanted to ask about all the subliminals in rap. Like Wayne going at Hov, and Hov going at Wayne, like Yelawolf, Machine Gun Kelly, all that stuff. What's your take on all that?

Ghost: Like I said, man, hip-hop's competitive. Everybody wants to be the best, everybody wants to claim they're the best, they got the most money, they're the richest. None of that shit really matters. First of all, everybody knows that Hov's got the most money, as a rapper. You can say, oh we make more money than Jay-Z, but like, that's not factual. You gotta prove shit like that. You gotta talk factual raps. I think with Wayne saying that "I kidnap your lady", that's not factual. You're not gonna kidnap Beyoncé. Even if Jay's not around, you're not gonna kidnap Beyoncé. Like, it's cool to say it, I guess, but speaking from a more lyrical sense, if you're gonna battle, I wanna hear more factual raps. If it's gonna be competitive and it's gonna be honest, I wanna hear that 50 Cent. You know, 50 will go back and dig up back stories on you that'll put you to shame. Shut your career down, you know what I'm saying? When it comes to that point, I don't want to hear that fictitious, "I'll kidnap your baby," you know what I'm saying? I think Wayne's super talented, but from that standpoint I didn't really respect that little blow he threw out. I thought that was whatever. So if I don't respect it, I'm sure Hov didn't. It's all good. I think Wayne's an incredible artist, but as far as the whole beefing and the battling and all that, we're at a day and age where that shit doesn't matter man. Like I don't even think Yelawolf and Machine Gun Kelly should comment on each other. They're both white rappers. Like, it's already a strike against you guys cuz Eminem made it so if you're white, and you come out and rap, you're automatically gonna get an Eminem comparison, whether you sound like him or not. There will never be another Eminem in the game. I know that's a bold statement, but let's face it, Em's been out what, over a decade now, and he's been killing it ever since. There hasn't been another white rapper that's been as good, not to say there never won't, maybe there will be, but in our lifetime, I don't think I'm gonna see it. Do I think I'm gonna see another Michael Jackson? Fuck no. Do I think I'm gonna see another Jay-Z? Hell no. You guys are both white rappers. At the end of the day, feed your fan base, feed your family, make music, get your money and just keep it going. All the like "oh I'm white, oh you're white, oh we sound like each other" that shit is for the birds. I think they're both talented artists. Yelawolf's talented. Machine Gun Kelly's talented. You know, Diddy gave him a situation. At this point right now, make your money, fuck all that other shit. All that beefing and all that other shit is dead man. I'm not interested in hearing that, unless it's gonna be real battle. If y'all are gonna go at it, go at it. If not, stop tap-dancing around your race, that shit is dead.

TS: Yeah, factual over the bullshit, that's why I always take "Takeover" over "Ether". On "Takeover" he actually proves that Nas fucked up.

Ghost: Yeah, yeah.

TS: I don't know, to me I always take "Takeover".

Ghost: Yeah, all that like "I'ma cut you, I'ma shoot you", all that, like it's not happening. You're not gonna do that. Like, I'm an adult now, dude. You know what I'm saying? If I was 16 years old I would definitely - and maybe that's why the kids feed into it. Like you're 16 or 17, Wayne is your hero, so you're like "yeah Wayne'll kidnap Jay-Z's girl".

TS: [laughs]

Ghost: You know what I'm saying? It's like, yeah really? Like as an adult now, I don't respect those fictitious fucking diss records. It's whatever to me at this point. I got a focal point. If you guys are gonna battle, like it's gonna be on some toe to toe, like you're really gonna go in, like some "Ether" and "Takeover" shit then I'll respect it. Other than that I'm good.

TS: Alright, I got my last question. Oh fuck. [frantically searches for last question] Oh yeah, before December 23rd, is there anything we should look out for from GhostWridah?

Ghost: Yeah, I mean I'm gonna be constantly dropping freestyles. I try to drop freestyles on a weekly basis. Now I didn't drop anything last week because it was a holiday. It was a break. But I'm gonna be constantly dropping freestyles, so look out for freestyles, and a couple music videos as well. I'm shooting a video for "No Church In The Wild" finally. So I'm gonna start reaching back, and shooting all the freestyles, so be on the lookout for a lot of music videos. Like I'm shooting like 3 more videos for American Alien before I close it out. So be on the lookout for more visuals. And for the New Year, you're gonna see a new Ghost. New GhostWridah. New and improved flows, new opportuniites, new deals, new blessings man. So, keep your eyes open, keep your ears open and understand what I'm doing right now is bigger than just Miami. I'm trying to go on a global standpoint with this hip-hop, and just take my city to the world, you know what I'm saying?

TS: Yeah for sure. Alright, again, as a fan thanks very much for talking to me. And from Kids Wasting Time, thanks for talking to us, we really appreciate it.

Ghost: Nah, I really appreciate what you guys do for me as well, man. This year, what I want to do, definitely, is help put you guys out there or even more, you know what I'm saying. Like what I definitely want to do is somewhere down the line, in the future, and you could hold me to this man, I'll probably end up dropping a mixtape with you guys or something like that, because I really believe in what you're doing. The site. I love the name -

TS: Thanks man, thank you.

Ghost: Yeah, you guys really support what I'm doing. I'll probably do something cool like team up with DJ Booth and Kids Wasting Time for a freestyle mixtape or something like that. Like give you guys a boost. I really believe in what you guys are doing, and you could hold me to it man.

TS: [laughs] I will, I will hold you to it.

Ghost: Yeah, in the near future we're gonna do something together. I really like what you guys are doing. I really appreciate that you support me, and I believe in your siite. Let's keep it going man. Keep me in your prayers, keep me on your blog, and I'll definitely do the same thing, and you can hold me to that.

TS: Alright thanks man, that's sick, that's so sick.

Ghost: Yeah.

TS: Alright, great talking to you.

Ghost: Hey no problem man, y'all guys have a great night. God bless you.

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